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4 minutes remaining. Then 15 seconds. Then 5 hours. Why can't computers just tell you how long something's going to take? • MORE BASICS: nlblock.info/http/PL96C35uN7xGLLeET0dOWaKHkAlPsrkcha
Written with Sean Elliott SeanMElliott/ • Graphics by William Marler wmad.co.uk
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Tom Scott
Tom Scott Maand geleden
I'm having to film back in the Tiny Room against green-screen again, as lockdown means the Centre for Computing History is closed! Hopefully they'll be open again soon, although that depends on a very different kind of progress...
Culiynl
Culiynl 15 dagen geleden
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RanMind YT
RanMind YT 15 dagen geleden
why do you private your videos before you upload them
Michael Conroy
Michael Conroy 21 dag geleden
How did you put in the time estimate of this video in the script as you were recoring? I slowed down the video speed to .25 but can't see where you may have stitched two takes together.
NoobKing
NoobKing 24 dagen geleden
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PrxjectMeme
PrxjectMeme 27 dagen geleden
Why does my phone tell me that this comment was posted before the video was?
Thot Slayer 420
Thot Slayer 420 10 uur geleden
what about a 2D progress block, width for data (so maybe mb or gb) and height for file count, never seen one, just thought of it
kalle anka
kalle anka Dag geleden
Best solution would be to put a title to every segemt of the progress bar. Anyone who watches porn on the hub will have found this out. If you dont care about foreplay you know exactly on te second to skip to, to skip that part. So for a progress bar for a install. Just title the segement so that we know what part the computer is working on and we know what we might think of upgrading
RamennBowls
RamennBowls Dag geleden
"The most important job is to reassure that yes, things are happening, progress it being made" That moment when the progress bar is stuck at 99% for about 28 minutes...
Reese606
Reese606 2 dagen geleden
The only accurate progress bar is the 3DS one And no, not the blue one The one when your digitally downloading a game off of the eShop
Ask Master
Ask Master 2 dagen geleden
100% ... Restarting... 30% .... ... .. 58% ............... 79% ................ 100% .................................................................... Aaaaand it crashed
Adam Cogley
Adam Cogley 2 dagen geleden
Steam
gunship sequel budyboy
gunship sequel budyboy 2 dagen geleden
you should create a program that changes the line on the video
YaBoy •
YaBoy • 2 dagen geleden
Putting my finger over the progress bar to see if its moving
Vex989
Vex989 3 dagen geleden
Steam installing a game be like: 1 minute left -- 2 hours left -- 5 days left -- 6 minutes left
agustinbs
agustinbs 4 dagen geleden
Are you reporting from 1998?
DG Secret
DG Secret 4 dagen geleden
Tom Scott : Why Progress Bars Don't Move Smoothly Me : Wondering why the progress bar on the title doesn't move
Peto
Peto 4 dagen geleden
0:06 WAS THAT A LEGO RACER 2 LOADING BAR ??????
KoGa
KoGa 4 dagen geleden
"Why can't computers just tell me how long something is going to take?" Because progress bars don't show you time... they show (suprise!) progress.
Rory M
Rory M 5 dagen geleden
Shout out to those 99 years that I was told it was gonna take for my game to open when I was 8.
P Church
P Church 5 dagen geleden
This is why I leave and do something else when I’m downloading something. If it takes 5 minutes or 2 hours I’ll have something nice to come back to once I remember
GigaGame
GigaGame 5 dagen geleden
who needs a progress bar when u have a gaming fridge that can download anything almost instantaneously
YY YELLOW
YY YELLOW 5 dagen geleden
Why this guy is soo much underrated
karehaqt
karehaqt 5 dagen geleden
Good old Microsoft Minutes
Deconimus
Deconimus 6 dagen geleden
How was the halting problem not mentioned in this video?
KysterPSY
KysterPSY 6 dagen geleden
Loved the Sopranos kinda ending.
Pat Smash
Pat Smash 7 dagen geleden
My loading bar just goes backwards
Chane
Chane 9 dagen geleden
looking at you STEAM
A Skellington
A Skellington 9 dagen geleden
LOADING GEOMETRIES 62%
Yajihba
Yajihba 9 dagen geleden
Someone tell computer making people to put this when turning on a computer after shutting it down
Lordlouckster
Lordlouckster 10 dagen geleden
Solution: Have individual progress bars for each step. Step 1/4: 10% Step 1/4: 20% ... Step 1/4: 100% Step 2/4: 10% Step 2/4: 20% ... Step 4/4: 90% Step 4/4: Done!
Hasan A
Hasan A 10 dagen geleden
The one thing I wish I could do when it came to downloading something is allocate as much resources to downloading as possible. I love that you can still Watch Netflix, have a conference call, and edit a video in Adobe After affects, while downloading somthing, but sometimes I just want to download something, walk away and have the computer just worry about downloading or moving the file.
Sideways
Sideways 10 dagen geleden
This is the corollary to Windows 10 offering to kill any app that takes more than 15 seconds to do something - apparently Windows isn’t seeing a progress bar😅
Eeee
Eeee 10 dagen geleden
Bar: 1% to 99% : 20 minutes Bar: 99% to 100% : *10 hours*
Viktória Vadon
Viktória Vadon 10 dagen geleden
I agree, as long as the progress bar is moving (and not backwards!), I know something is happening!
Frog 4096
Frog 4096 11 dagen geleden
3:42 Looking at you, Windows 10
Samson Kinyanjui
Samson Kinyanjui 11 dagen geleden
/////// / / / / / / / / / / / / / 10more years ///////// / / / / / / / / / / / 30more seconds
Riley Carpenter
Riley Carpenter 12 dagen geleden
Content
mozl83
mozl83 12 dagen geleden
That's also why many programmers have gone the other way and just show "progress indicator" instead of progress bars. Like the spinning wheel on Windows. It just shows that the PC didn't freeze and is still working, but you don't have any indication on how long it's going to take. Also if "time" isn't a parameter itself then the progress bar can never be give you a proper "remaining time". A countdown is always accurate because the time itself is the parameter that makes it work. Filetransfer ist based on the files and not on the time, so it will finish when it is finished, not when a certain amount of seconds have passed (like the queue in the supermarket. Fewer people doesn't mean the line is faster. There are just fewer people in front of you.).
Cameron Figgins
Cameron Figgins 12 dagen geleden
Minecraft’s progress bar be like: And I took that personally
Zari Hanssen
Zari Hanssen 12 dagen geleden
Loading time estimates be like: 20 minutes 4 seconds 45 minutes 5 minutes 999999 hours
Butter of Sorrow
Butter of Sorrow 12 dagen geleden
Personally I like loading screens that tell you what exactly they're doing, like most source and goldsource engine games. "Validating game resources." "Sending client info." That kind of thing.
French Comprehensible Input
100% done = 90% done *Adobe Premiere users* will understand 😂
Helio Gonzalez
Helio Gonzalez 13 dagen geleden
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Silksong Date
Silksong Date 13 dagen geleden
4:48 smh now you'll have to record everything from the start rippppp
SoftBunnyCreations Vibing
SoftBunnyCreations Vibing 14 dagen geleden
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pencilchat
pencilchat 14 dagen geleden
my monitor froze during a download once, so i thought it took 4 hours to get a 20mb download done.
Zoltan
Zoltan 14 dagen geleden
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Eugene Lo
Eugene Lo 14 dagen geleden
Imagine the progress bar in the title is how long Tom Scott's life is
Cypress
Cypress 14 dagen geleden
is this the guy who says “xnyopit”
fossar _
fossar _ 14 dagen geleden
Is it just me or was the audio an video out of sync (I'm assuming deliberately)? If so nice choice.
Tomáš Lipták
Tomáš Lipták 14 dagen geleden
I think the best loading screens are when there are actually two (think winrar) one for the whole process and the other for individual processes. From there you can see that it is actually doing something.
youtubeusername
youtubeusername 14 dagen geleden
Pov: you kept checking your scroll bar through out the video
The cheese
The cheese 15 dagen geleden
Me when I tilt my phone facing down and the progress bars start moving again.
Pawit Ninnabodee
Pawit Ninnabodee 15 dagen geleden
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RanMind YT
RanMind YT 15 dagen geleden
What is the 1% that’s taking so long to load
wozerD
wozerD 15 dagen geleden
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Leo Telles
Leo Telles 15 dagen geleden
You look young and old at the same time. That's a real mistyr to me, you should make a video about it!
AK Nephtali
AK Nephtali 15 dagen geleden
The worst thing is when it goes to 99% immediately and then stays there for what feels like a millennium. Thank you for explaining this in your usual awesome way!
SYS
SYS 15 dagen geleden
A thing the program could do to resolve, or at least find a more smooth load, is by logging the time, taking the estimated time that it took, and telling you that number. If it was a game, it could show how long it had taken the last 10 times, (assuming you would've loaded it that many times), and let's say a file upload, it could track how long it would take for 100 files, and estimate the amount of time, that this would take because its 10x times larger, or half the size = it would be 10 times longer or ½ times faster.
BlurryPirate
BlurryPirate 15 dagen geleden
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Phill Wainewright
Phill Wainewright 15 dagen geleden
Dropbox "Time Remaining" when uploading a video is a complete work of fiction.
Stipe Poljak
Stipe Poljak 16 dagen geleden
Intro music from the Chase?
HowDeeDoo
HowDeeDoo 16 dagen geleden
Steam update estimation times. 3 minutes, 7 minutes, 18 minutes, 2 hours, 17 hours... 12 seconds.
whadup
whadup 16 dagen geleden
I cant be the only one that was annoyed that the two progress bars didn't match perfectly 😁
Kebbo
Kebbo 16 dagen geleden
coomrag
John Southfield
John Southfield 16 dagen geleden
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Lambor_ghini
Lambor_ghini 17 dagen geleden
Progress screens can lock up and fool you to wait forever but ultimately you have to reset the computer..
Bubba Games
Bubba Games 17 dagen geleden
The video progress bar is half a second off
Haydenex
Haydenex 17 dagen geleden
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Zak Fallows
Zak Fallows 17 dagen geleden
I have four letters for you: RTOS. A Real Time Operating System (RTOS) provides hard or soft guarantees of how long a program will take, in instruction cycles. Sometimes this is critically important, for instance if the machine is doing quantitative chemistry and it needs to error out if the reaction time wasn't very close to 90 seconds. It's fun stuff.
Cristian Martinez
Cristian Martinez 17 dagen geleden
why a linguistic knows computing, that aint fair
Paul Potter
Paul Potter 17 dagen geleden
Who else checked that the video progress bar was in sync?
jeremiaas15
jeremiaas15 17 dagen geleden
What I'd like to know is, how is it possible that progress bars always show, even if for a split second, 100%. Surely, if that were truth, the next thing would pop up instead.
LRC
LRC 17 dagen geleden
I love it when a simple download says "2 years remaining" or "∞ time remaining".
AsrithTechsys
AsrithTechsys 17 dagen geleden
Are you anyway realated to Linus Torvalds?
TROVEN
TROVEN 17 dagen geleden
Who else leave cursor at the edge of the progress bar to see if its actually moving?
Sara Olmstead
Sara Olmstead 17 dagen geleden
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Thaer Razeq
Thaer Razeq 18 dagen geleden
Always, stuck at the dreaded 99% or 100% more so than the previous 98% or 99% combined.
Craig Smith
Craig Smith 18 dagen geleden
Large cache SSD and a modern high core CPU like Ryzen 9 or 10+ core i9. RIP, progress bar existence
Abhinav Dev
Abhinav Dev 18 dagen geleden
When they do move smoothly It is the most satisfying thing in this world.
Simon T
Simon T 18 dagen geleden
This is a repost?
Snowjix
Snowjix 18 dagen geleden
3:42 Too real Tom..
HP Gummy
HP Gummy 18 dagen geleden
I didn't need to know this
Ariel Zabihi
Ariel Zabihi 18 dagen geleden
Do one on browser compilers and header data
DoubleDS9
DoubleDS9 19 dagen geleden
Excellent! Thank you.
Cj Slime
Cj Slime 19 dagen geleden
I can understand why they change but the lock at 99.9 percent complete is annoying
Phung Ngoc Quynh
Phung Ngoc Quynh 19 dagen geleden
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Shakhzod Mukhammadiev
Shakhzod Mukhammadiev 19 dagen geleden
*Good ol' floppy drives "3%.... 4%.... 98% DONE"*
Candy Vargas
Candy Vargas 19 dagen geleden
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Dino Hall
Dino Hall 16 dagen geleden
Am I supposed to know what this means?
Hayato Tenryuu
Hayato Tenryuu 19 dagen geleden
Maybe Windows just decides to restart itself in order to install an update that I don't care about, and would actually rather I didn't have to have.
Brando Calrisian
Brando Calrisian 19 dagen geleden
Beware the perfectly smooth progress bar, got it. Great advice, thanks, i had no idea about any of this!
Bedrock Yams
Bedrock Yams 19 dagen geleden
1:49
HarD To Grind
HarD To Grind 19 dagen geleden
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Free Wolf
Free Wolf 19 dagen geleden
Thanks.
Evan Ouk
Evan Ouk 20 dagen geleden
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Edmund Wisell 20 dagen geleden
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Juan Hernandez 20 dagen geleden
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NERV
NERV 20 dagen geleden
Don't trust progress bar. I installed android x86 and the progress bar goes down to 80% from 98%.
It's Me
It's Me 20 dagen geleden
League of Legends joined the chat for 87 %
Roblo
Roblo 20 dagen geleden
It's my trash wifi.
Andy Delle
Andy Delle 20 dagen geleden
One way to look at this issue is as follows: What do you want the computer to spend it's time resources doing? 1) Analyzing all aspects of the task and the current conditions which could provide a very accurate time estimate. 2) Concentrate on moving the data or crunching it with time calculations done on available wait times. It's often the case where an accurate completion time estimate would take longer than just doing the requested task.
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Charlotte Hal 20 dagen geleden
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Illuminati Playz
Illuminati Playz 20 dagen geleden
No offense, but you look like you are 16, 32 and 80 at the same time...
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Abhay _/ 20 dagen geleden
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